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kaminar:
In terms of film size, 4:3 > 16:9. In effect, 4:3 = 16:12...for example: if 16:9 = 1920x1080, then 4:3/16:12 = 1920x1440. The real problem is no TVs or theaters are 4:3 anymore. If a HD video/film is clipped from 4:3 to 16:9, a portion of the original top (180 horizontal lines) and bottom (180 horizontal lines) are lost.
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kingswear62:
@kaminar good point.
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RogerRabbit:
In fact, this is more complicated than it looks : sometimes 16/9 is a cropped full Frame 4/3 then it loose some information ...
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RogerRabbit:
loose up and bottom image
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RogerRabbit:
sometimes 4/3 is a cropped 16/9 then it loose : left and right image
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RogerRabbit:
And sometimes, they choose what to crop depending on the technical aspect and quality and other things ...
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RogerRabbit:
Some series or movies can have selected scenes that are not cropped/framed the same way : then several release are showing different image information and could be in some way complementary !
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RogerRabbit:
I haven't seen the Remastered Six.Feet.Under yet then I don't know about it for now ...
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Zandig:
The cropping bothers me as well. I'm a horror film fan and just about every USA horror film from the 70s to the early 90s are badly cropped on UHD,BD, and DVD. The old 4x3 VHS tapes contain much more picture on the top and bottom. Also more often than not the 16x9 version does not even have any extra picture on the sides, it just crops the top and bottom of the picture. I call it a "crop stretch" where the actors look like they on 50 pounds of extra weight! -
Zandig:
For the most part the European films do not have this problem as they were shot wide to begin with and are proper in digital formats.
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RogerRabbit:
Whatever the cropped system is used, and except really bad conversion job, proportion has to be the same and if the proportion is not proper (looking with absurd streched proportion) then it's really a not proper conversion, it's not really often even really rare I think .... !!!
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RogerRabbit:
It could be coming from a wrong technical setup ratio from a player or screen ...
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kingswear62:
I think this is a typical argument between the purists and most people. It doesn’t bother most people hence why 16:9 is the popular choice. This certainly doesn’t make it right as RogerRabbit has explained.
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RogerRabbit:
For some Blu-ray Release with both 4/3 and 16/9 AR version done from the same Master, the 4/3 Full Frame of course don't cover all your 16/9 display system but have more precise details/grain as the 16/9 is streched and even covering all display, it looses image part and have less precise details/grain ... But it is probably for purists only !
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RogerRabbit:
The nature is wild and wide and always full of surpise !
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Lena:
The Wire Series was remastered on Bluray it's so much better to watch this way for me personally
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RogerRabbit:
About Six Feet Under : Remastered is in 16/9 and have more picture information on left and right compares to 4/3 which was cropped from the 16/9 Ratio ... but there is some rare shot where the 4/3 is the original frame and where 4/3 contains more information on top and bottom !!!
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RogerRabbit:
Remastered is really an upgraded Release with more picture quality even if it is still too much compressed to do a great job !!!
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RogerRabbit:
Let's hope Remeastered for S2 to S5 ... and why not someday Blu-ray or 2160p ?
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icedragonslair:
@RogerRabbit: well stated... -
icedragonslair:
Waiting patiently, but very anxious on Killer Clowns 4k
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AJ1981:
@icedragonslair Onkyo posted it last Friday https://onkyo4k.com/threads/killer-...lu-ray-hevc-dts-hd-ma-5-1-b0mbardiers.321968/ -
icedragonslair:
AJ1981: Thanks loads, it went by me...lol. when I searched it did not comeup
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Onkyo:
@icedragonslair: Using imdb to search is the most accurate -
Onkyo:
because in each post there will be an imdb link (ex: tt0095444) => XenForo's search system will easily filter it out for you
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